In preparation for his 2019 pilgrimage on the Camino de Santiago de Compostela in Portugal and Spain, Pastor Keith interviewed friends and fellow pilgrims about their experience.

Pastor Keith interviews Brian McLaren, author of We Make the Road by Walking and many other books. They talk about why and how he wrote the book, its life since publication, what it means to "seek aliveness," the changing nature of faith formation, and what's giving him hope in the world.